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	<title>Comments on: To the makers of VMWare 2.0 for Linux: wtf, go to hell.</title>
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		<title>By: atom</title>
		<link>http://trickeries.com/347/to-the-makers-of-vmware-20-for-linux-wtf-go-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-15490</link>
		<dc:creator>atom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sn0man

It was foolish and lazy of me to just accept the defaults and not pay attention during the install.

I don&#039;t see why running 10 VMs would be any easier via a web based interface.  I found it to be quite irritating.

I also do not agree that there is a necessity to exchange installation simplicity for product robustness / tweakability.  There is nothing wrong with sensible defaults.

This was written because I had a shitty experience with a product which I have had delightful experiences in the past.  I did not have to do research or read long guides to install it before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sn0man</p>
<p>It was foolish and lazy of me to just accept the defaults and not pay attention during the install.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why running 10 VMs would be any easier via a web based interface.  I found it to be quite irritating.</p>
<p>I also do not agree that there is a necessity to exchange installation simplicity for product robustness / tweakability.  There is nothing wrong with sensible defaults.</p>
<p>This was written because I had a shitty experience with a product which I have had delightful experiences in the past.  I did not have to do research or read long guides to install it before.</p>
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		<title>By: sn0man</title>
		<link>http://trickeries.com/347/to-the-makers-of-vmware-20-for-linux-wtf-go-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-15486</link>
		<dc:creator>sn0man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...bunch of questions, I slap away at the enter key.&quot;

There is your problem.  If you would have read those &quot;questions&quot; that were asked you would have noticed one of them is, &quot;would you like to add a administrator account&quot; [yes/no]

And yes, by default the root account is used, but in the case of ubuntu there isn&#039;t a &quot;root&quot; account readily available without other modifications to your OS.  Ubuntu just does it differently.  There are also patches you must install to the vmware-config.pl script in order to to make those kernel modules compile correctly, vsock to be exact.  Once again, just Ubuntu doing things differently.

As far as the &quot;blank page&quot; its not actually blank. Either your popup software is blocking the content or secondly, you are seeing your browser&#039;s notification page warning you of a self signed SSL Certificate that it cannot verify.  You simply need to add an exception to tell your browser to accept the SSL Cert.

I&#039;m not trying to be a smart ass here, but your problems are your own fault for simply not knowing and understanding what it is you are trying to achieve.  &quot;Server&quot; software is not and should not be simple &#039;one click installs&#039;.  VMware Server is this way because of how robust it is.  There are many many ways to tweak it to perform the way you want it to for a specific production environment.  

I will agree that the web based interface is a bit clunky.  But when you have 10+ VM&#039;s running off of one server, you will find it comes in extremely handy when trying to manage several VM&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;bunch of questions, I slap away at the enter key.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is your problem.  If you would have read those &#8220;questions&#8221; that were asked you would have noticed one of them is, &#8220;would you like to add a administrator account&#8221; [yes/no]</p>
<p>And yes, by default the root account is used, but in the case of ubuntu there isn&#8217;t a &#8220;root&#8221; account readily available without other modifications to your OS.  Ubuntu just does it differently.  There are also patches you must install to the vmware-config.pl script in order to to make those kernel modules compile correctly, vsock to be exact.  Once again, just Ubuntu doing things differently.</p>
<p>As far as the &#8220;blank page&#8221; its not actually blank. Either your popup software is blocking the content or secondly, you are seeing your browser&#8217;s notification page warning you of a self signed SSL Certificate that it cannot verify.  You simply need to add an exception to tell your browser to accept the SSL Cert.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be a smart ass here, but your problems are your own fault for simply not knowing and understanding what it is you are trying to achieve.  &#8220;Server&#8221; software is not and should not be simple &#8216;one click installs&#8217;.  VMware Server is this way because of how robust it is.  There are many many ways to tweak it to perform the way you want it to for a specific production environment.  </p>
<p>I will agree that the web based interface is a bit clunky.  But when you have 10+ VM&#8217;s running off of one server, you will find it comes in extremely handy when trying to manage several VM&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://trickeries.com/347/to-the-makers-of-vmware-20-for-linux-wtf-go-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-14401</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unfknbelievable - /opt/.../vmware loads a web page??  wtf??  besides being yellow the web page also happens to be completely blank (good thinking vmware) but that&#039;s besides the point.  a 600 fucking meg installation that launches a browser??  I paid to use vmware w/s 4 which was hardcore but I&#039;ve had it with vmware.  endless kernel module problems when upgrading kernels, waste 3 days digging around hoping there&#039;s a workaround, prehistoric sound support, blah blah blah.  I was planning to use vmware-server 1.x but of course it requires kernel modules that DO NOT COMPILE!!!  so I waste time d/l a 500M server2 tar ONLY because its kernel modules will actually compile, get things installed and &quot;vmware&quot; launches a fucking blank web page??  I am just stunned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfknbelievable &#8211; /opt/&#8230;/vmware loads a web page??  wtf??  besides being yellow the web page also happens to be completely blank (good thinking vmware) but that&#8217;s besides the point.  a 600 fucking meg installation that launches a browser??  I paid to use vmware w/s 4 which was hardcore but I&#8217;ve had it with vmware.  endless kernel module problems when upgrading kernels, waste 3 days digging around hoping there&#8217;s a workaround, prehistoric sound support, blah blah blah.  I was planning to use vmware-server 1.x but of course it requires kernel modules that DO NOT COMPILE!!!  so I waste time d/l a 500M server2 tar ONLY because its kernel modules will actually compile, get things installed and &#8220;vmware&#8221; launches a fucking blank web page??  I am just stunned.</p>
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		<title>By: atom</title>
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		<dc:creator>atom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jeremy

I did not want player, i wanted server.

Server didn&#039;t always run via the browser, and it is not really a web service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeremy</p>
<p>I did not want player, i wanted server.</p>
<p>Server didn&#8217;t always run via the browser, and it is not really a web service.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you wanted VMware *Player* not &#039;Server&#039;.

The player is an application that runs locally.  Server runs as a web service.  Player is much easier to set up, it doesn&#039;t even need the command line, it has a GUI that steps you through the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you wanted VMware *Player* not &#8216;Server&#8217;.</p>
<p>The player is an application that runs locally.  Server runs as a web service.  Player is much easier to set up, it doesn&#8217;t even need the command line, it has a GUI that steps you through the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Slaughter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Slaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing this up, so I didn&#039;t have to.

I&#039;ve been using vmware for over 10 years. I&#039;ve paid for the corporate versions when using for work and enjoyed the free version when they made it available a few years back.

Now it just blows. Where did my nice vmware UI go? Now I get a nasty login page with no idea what the login info is and I also get a couple nice error pages when I click on some of the other links the installer created. 

They probably got bought by some crappy company or something. They were a stand up company for a very long time. 

Another one bites the dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing this up, so I didn&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using vmware for over 10 years. I&#8217;ve paid for the corporate versions when using for work and enjoyed the free version when they made it available a few years back.</p>
<p>Now it just blows. Where did my nice vmware UI go? Now I get a nasty login page with no idea what the login info is and I also get a couple nice error pages when I click on some of the other links the installer created. </p>
<p>They probably got bought by some crappy company or something. They were a stand up company for a very long time. </p>
<p>Another one bites the dust.</p>
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		<title>By: VMware Rocks!</title>
		<link>http://trickeries.com/347/to-the-makers-of-vmware-20-for-linux-wtf-go-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-11687</link>
		<dc:creator>VMware Rocks!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: Note that the fine folks at HowtoForge.com has an updated How To for VMware Server 2.0 on the latest Ubuntu 9.04 at URL http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-2-on-ubuntu-9.04</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: Note that the fine folks at HowtoForge.com has an updated How To for VMware Server 2.0 on the latest Ubuntu 9.04 at URL <a href="http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-2-on-ubuntu-9.04" rel="nofollow">http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-2-on-ubuntu-9.04</a></p>
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		<title>By: codywohlers</title>
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		<dc:creator>codywohlers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 14:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are using virtual machines for a desktop experience, I recommend VMWare Player.  VMWare has a lot of different software packages and they make it hard to find the free stuff easily.  Anyway VMWare Player can run virtual machines really well (and with 3D acceleration) but not create or edit them.  The full-blown equivalent of VM-Player which can also create/edit vm&#039;s is VM-Workstation ($$) but if you want to do everything for free you can create vm&#039;s on another computer with VM-Server and run them on your desktop using VM-Player!  Or you can try and find a vm online to download.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are using virtual machines for a desktop experience, I recommend VMWare Player.  VMWare has a lot of different software packages and they make it hard to find the free stuff easily.  Anyway VMWare Player can run virtual machines really well (and with 3D acceleration) but not create or edit them.  The full-blown equivalent of VM-Player which can also create/edit vm&#8217;s is VM-Workstation ($$) but if you want to do everything for free you can create vm&#8217;s on another computer with VM-Server and run them on your desktop using VM-Player!  Or you can try and find a vm online to download.</p>
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		<title>By: atom</title>
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		<dc:creator>atom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having fun with VirtualBox OSE at the moment.

I am glad someone wrote a guide, but it still is emphasizing that it is considerably harder to install than the operating system itself.

Also I am still pretty against the web interface.  There is no reason for that shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having fun with VirtualBox OSE at the moment.</p>
<p>I am glad someone wrote a guide, but it still is emphasizing that it is considerably harder to install than the operating system itself.</p>
<p>Also I am still pretty against the web interface.  There is no reason for that shit.</p>
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		<title>By: VMware Rocks!</title>
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		<dc:creator>VMware Rocks!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to add that although the How-To is for Ubuntu 8.10 I have tested it on Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 and it works perfectly! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to add that although the How-To is for Ubuntu 8.10 I have tested it on Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 and it works perfectly! <img src='http://trickeries.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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